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Erik's avatar

Have you ever made a connection between QiGong and this work?

Some of the effects can be really impressive and flashy.

The most famous is John Chang with Mo Pai

But there are guys like this too

https://youtu.be/-KTovbRr-oc?si=2YHcTIo_CSRzK-2J

The man in this video talks a little about the connection between this and acupuncture.

The method is that once the meridians are open enough to withstand larger chi-flow. Chi is stored in the Dan Tien and bringing it up and out your arms should be pretty intuitive.

It almost looks like oranur without radiation. Orgone exited by being quickly pushed out a small point.

Maybe even connects to the theory of consciousness, since the chi is moved by will.

Erik's avatar

Electro-sensitivity is inflammatory correct?

Does something like aspirin help?

I thought the stuff under his hand was a kind of powder to show the chi's movement.

This world has so many anecdotes surprisingly similar to orgone. They even recognize the color of chi as blue, and it coming from the sky.

Erik's avatar

https://youtu.be/wz7wvUL7AQg?t=1704

I found a solid answer on the paper. It is little pieces of colored paper attracted to his hand via negative charge

Leon Southgate's avatar

I guess one could see it as subtle energy creating electrical charge effects, hard to delineate the two exactly..

Leon Southgate's avatar

that's interesting, thanks

Leon Southgate's avatar

I have come to this same conclusion myself, after many years - that ES is some type of global inflammatory process. This might be why so many things set it off and so many things can treat it I guess. Also why it is quite a difficult thing to treat overall. Aspirin does help, as does arnica though the strongest thing to help has been cold water swimming. Its something I am constantly firefighting, if I can keep it at moderate levels then I can have a more or less normal life but otherwise, like the last week, I can't even watch the laptop (even with it hardwired).. It started before I got involved with the oranur energy but I do wonder sometimes if the energy work has made the sensitivity stronger. We live in a world that is constantly trying to fry us though.

Leon Southgate's avatar

Hi Erik, yes have connected those, funny enough the research centre that helped me with my early acupuncture study had a copy of a study of Qigong affecting cells but I never tracked it down, G. Yount his name was, think it might have just been a talk in English, original might be in Chinese. I would think it is in effect a kind of oranur. I count the term to mean orgone excitation by any method, including consciousness or the mind. The psychic Uri Geller can affect Geiger counts (which can indicate oranur). I reckon he increases oranur just by thinking about it. His team thought it was just him affecting the machine but i reckon it was through oranur. The Qigong experts will be able to do similar no doubt. I really need to get into something like Qigong myself. I nearly didn't get this month's substack out what with a flare up of my electro-sensitivity and some fluey things. I find the idea of Qigong spirituality quite fascinating too as in the Falun Gong. Just had a look at the video, interesting, reminds me of a great osteo I knew who would swear blind he didn't use Qi but I could feel him doing it, like in that video. What are the things lighting up under his hand? It looks like he's actually converting Qi to EM energy. Again at the old research centre there was a Russian wand device which could 'light up' acu points when held over it like little lightning bolts, it didn't hurt.